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The Heart & Science of Leadership
The Heart & Science of Leadership" podcast, co-hosted by Dr. Paulie and A.J. Rinaldi, combines their diverse backgrounds in leadership to offer a comprehensive view on what it takes to lead effectively, no matter your position—be it executive, teacher, manager, principal, supervisor, or coach. Together, they explore the balance between the human side of leadership and evidence-based practices, providing listeners with practical tools, real-life stories, and actionable strategies. Whether you're a seasoned leader or just starting your journey, this podcast delivers valuable insights that blend heart and science for impactful leadership in any setting.
The Heart & Science of Leadership
An Intellectually Honest Discussion about Punishment and CESS
In the episode, David Roth and I tackle the very controversial and sensitive topic of punishment and CESS. It is broken down into 3 sections: pre-show monologue, full episode, and post-show discussion about the ABC video that highlighted the unethical use of CESS at the Judge Rotenberg Center. Please listen to the episode in its entirety as we spiral back to key points throughout. Opting to listen to just one section would be like reading a book, but starting with a chapter midway through! We encourage respectful and solution-oriented dialogue in the comments sections wherever this is posted.
Show notes:
- Link to Cicoria Podcast Session 10 with Pat Friman
- Link to David Roth’s Mindfulness talk at the Verbal Behavior Conference 2022
- (PDF) On Mindfulness: A Skinnerian Account
- (PDF) Skinnerian Reflections on Meditation, Mindfulness, and the Term "Skinnerian"
- (PDF) Two Definitions of Punishment
- ABC Video on CESS
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